ODS Prime logging all the ODS caches as found.....

[pilerman]

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I didn't realize the plan that was in effect for all the caches associated with the ODS project. I just barely got two of my ODS caches approved today and guess who the FTF is? ODS Prime!

I don't mean to cause a stink but I don't think that logging all the ODS caches is a way to "Track" all of the caches. It won't take long and ODS Prime will be the world wide leader in the number of cache finds! The owners of the One Degree cache project said it themselves that there is a possibility of 13,000 caches coming out of this huge project.

Since this is the area to post suggestions, this is mine:

Don't log all the caches as "Found", instead add them into bookmarks by state. Doing this would be way more handy. For example, let's say I wanted to be the leader in ODS cache finds for the state of Idaho. It's going to be a little tough to weed through all the other states to find just the Idaho ones. If all the Idaho ODS caches were in one "public" bookmark, I could run a pocket querry for ODS caches in the entire state.
I f I was going to Utah tomorrow, I could do the same for that state.
I'm not sure how many Bookmarks a user is allowed but I would bet that for a project this huge Groundspeak would be willing to give you a few more so that you could have an ODS bookmark for every state.
You could then list all the individual state bookmarks on the "Profile" page for ODS Prime in alphabetical order under the "Latest News" category.

I'm sorry, but until a real cacher comes and signs my log books, I'm not going to let a fake log stand. I'm going to delete both of your logs on those two caches and your welcome to come back again and re-log them.

I'm thinking that eventually Groundspeak is going to shut ODS Prime down like they did all the "Fake" pocket caches at GeoWoodstock 4 unless you use another method of "tracking" all the caches.

Anybody and everybody is welcome to add suggestions to my suggestion. I may create a poll and see how the voting goes. I for one don't care how you track them as long as ODS Prime isn't FTF on mine.

[Snoogans]

The fake logging debate is apples and oranges from the purpose of ODS: PRIME! ODSP Exists to log only one type of cache. The finds could NOT be considered number pumping in ANY way....

I disagree. I already considered your solution before the project launched. The ODS: Prime account is the only way to bring the entire project as it sets on geocaching.com into one spot. The ODS travel bugs would be left out of your solution. There are many more options to tie the project together using an SP account than a bookmark.

Also, my money is on less than 4,000 of the caches getting placed. Actually, more like 2,000. I doubt the outcry will be great over ODSP's stats. The project is viewed as community building by TPTB, but they may just shut ODSP down to spite me. I wouldn't put that past 'em in light of recent debate.

[cachercrashers]

I agree that ODS Prime logging everything is the best way to keep track of everything, but I wouldn't like to see him as FTF on my caches either. Even when a friend is with me when I hide a cache, I make them wait til FTF is logged before they log it. and I do the same if I'm present when a cache is hidden.

[Snoogans]

cachercrashers said:

I agree that ODS Prime logging everything is the best way to keep track of everything, but I wouldn't like to see him as FTF on my caches either. Even when a friend is with me when I hide a cache, I make them wait til FTF is logged before they log it. and I do the same if I'm present when a cache is hidden.

I totally agree. I was two weeks behind and the Snoogstress was bugging me to get some work (I promised to have done) finished and I logged 40+ caches in about 20 minutes.

In addition to th OP's two caches, I just went back and changed two more to notes until the FTF is claimed.

This was totally MY fault, but I'm glad that this shows my feedback system works.

I appreciate ALL constructive feedback whether positive or negative.

[Snoogans]

admin said:

cachercrashers said:

I agree that ODS Prime logging everything is the best way to keep track of everything, but I wouldn't like to see him as FTF on my caches either. Even when a friend is with me when I hide a cache, I make them wait til FTF is logged before they log it. and I do the same if I'm present when a cache is hidden.

I totally agree. I was two weeks behind and the Snoogstress was bugging me to get some work (I promised to have done) finished and I logged 40+ caches in about 20 minutes.

In addition to th OP's two caches, I just went back and changed two more to notes until the FTF is claimed.

This was totally MY fault, but I'm glad that this shows my feedback system works.

I appreciate ALL constructive feedback whether positive or negative.

There are now 3 more with notes awaiting FTF. This project is growing BY THE HOUR!

[pilerman]

admin said:

cachercrashers said:

I agree that ODS Prime logging everything is the best way to keep track of everything, but I wouldn't like to see him as FTF on my caches either. Even when a friend is with me when I hide a cache, I make them wait til FTF is logged before they log it. :) and I do the same if I'm present when a cache is hidden. :)

I totally agree. I was two weeks behind and the Snoogstress was bugging me to get some work (I promised to have done) finished and I logged 40+ caches in about 20 minutes.

In addition to th OP's two caches, I just went back and changed two more to notes until the FTF is claimed. :)

This was totally MY fault, but I'm glad that this shows my feedback system works. 8-)

I appreciate ALL constructive feedback whether positive or negative. :)

Rest assured, it was only my intent to post a constructive idea and not a negative one. I don't think that you took it as negative but I just want to be sure.

Yes, the FTF issue has been resolved, and as a cache owner yourself, I'm certain it was understood.

I'm still a bit uncertain how logging the caches will help track them. It will certainaly give us a number for how many ODS caches are within the project. But how would a person seek out those that are in their own state? I know or I think that my titles are goofed up which will hamper the search engine (my bad but fixing them to jive with the rest is in the works).
To me it would be so slick to have them all in bookmarks by state. A person can bring up the bookmark for their state and run a pocket querry for those caches. They could import them into an individual category within a PDA.
I think that bookmarks are the next best thing to pocket querries.

[pilerman]

Here's a link to an example bookmark list that I just created for poops and grins:
www.geocaching.com/bookmarks/view.aspx?guid=c7dadce8-6e56-4a1b-a101-5f03da8ef671
At the bottom of the list you have option of running a pocket querry that includes all of the caches in the list or you can simply download .LOC files.